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Hi CF. Of course we are going to
talk a lot about the porno activities you have out of the grind core scene. But first I
would like you to tell us how old you are and since when you are into CREAMFACE and tell
me if there are some other members or if you are a one man band?:
-No other members. Creamface is
active only since '99. I have played in other fast bands in past too.
For those of you who don 't know
what exactly consists CREAMFACE, let me introduce this by the following words: gore grind
porn band from Finland and completely obscene by the goo the jizz the "cum on her
face" stuff and so on. A kind of MEAT SHITS specialized into the cum or what?:
-Creamface is not "gore"
band at all. There is no gore lyrics used at all. Some people use this word to describe
music style that's ultra low tuned grind with often pitchifted vocals, but for me gore
means lyrics. And there is no gore in Creamface. It's 100% Porno grind! I don't have much
of Meat Shits and I'm not very interested either. Often they had rather dull
artwork/lyrics, and between crappy noise and lame death metal, there was very little of
good stuff left. Just a little. For me it seems Meat Shits used porno in very different
way than Creamface does. I appreciate them doing it long before many others started, but
of course they are not pioneers of sex noise. There has been many before them.
I particularly loved the 16 songs of
the "Maximized Fetish" MCD. Was that the first release of the band or did you
try first to do a demo tape or something like that?:
-There was first promo/demo tape
before this CDr. I think it was made just few dozen copies. It has been re-released as
bonus tracks split CDr with Nekro-Torso, because people seemed to be interested to get it.
The 16 songs on this first MCD are
totally perfect. I mean, the riffs are totally excellent all the time and the grind parts
on the drums are just killing me, the effects are terrible on the voices. So what's up bad
with this band?. Why suddenly are you cuming out the scene with a fucking CD R ?. Some
troubles with the censorship or what?. Nobody was wanting to sign you out?:
-I haven't been looking for labels.
Creamface was started as personal project, which only intention was to satisfy me. First I
did 50 copies of CDr and thought it would be enough. It wasn't. Often it just seems to
happen that people become interested and personal project becomes more or less
"popular" thing. I have no troubles with censorship. I don't qualify such labels
to release any music who would not allow or could not release just the kind of artwork I
want. I could just do demo tapes like in old days, but CDr is cheaper and faster to do and
to send, and people even buy them more than tapes, so that's been just fine to me.
I don't send promos or try to get
interviewed or anything. I do not look for fame or fortune with this thing.
"Real" records are made if it seems good thing to do.
Sure that you know all these bands
(including me) like INFECTED PUSSY, LIBIDO AIRBAG, MEAT SHITS, SCUM BITCH, VOMIT SPAWN,
DEMONIC ORGY, VISCERA, FILTH, the almighty CATASEXUAL U.M., SLOUGH and so on. What was the
start point from you becoz you didnt get the idea alone, I mean, even if you are working
since years into the porn activities sure that bands were existing before. So influenced
by?:
-I know most of the names, but half
I haven't actually heard. For very long time I have been more or less negative towards
porn grind, because it never used to satisfy porn freak. Most of the bands just use porn
for "fun" or try to "shock". There is very rare bands truly into porn
and deal with it in interesting way. It's just thing they use among gore, jokes and
bullshit. You can check out rather new grind 7"s which look like they just want to be
fun or shock "pc" listener. Some funny bestiality song titles and dull and soft
latex catalogue photos. What is this shit? Most of porn grind bands do not even have
lyrics, or any thrilling pictures. It shows zero commitment to the cause. It has no value
even if you would have the most dirty bizarre sex image on record cover if you personally
do not have genuine interest towards the thing. There are good porn grinders like
Misogynist Pussyslasher, but most do not convince me.
The song "hospitalized" on
the first MCD isn't a cover song or just the riff at the beginning?. Same for the
"Cheerleader" song? (I think about IMPETIGO and NAPALM DEATH of corpse):
-Hospitalized riff on the beginning
of song is taken from legendary song "Dogmatized" of german BLOOD. It's my
tribute to the band who was among the first ones to introduce extreme grind to me with
their amazing "Impulse to Destroy" LP!
Impetigo/ND riffs aren't intentional
(except one song, experts can find it as 1st bonus track of "young &
willing" CDr version). It's just that there isn't many ways to do simple mincing
grindcore riff. I don't want those complicated 1 string buzzsaw death metal style things
or to be just chaos all the time, so trad. grind riffs might be new or might be used by 1
or 100 bands beforehand, but it's not essential.
Just one stupid question you must
have answered before in the other inties I think. You should meet some completely overmad
guys by doing your porno distro and sure that guys asked you stupid tings certainly with
children, animals or oldies, or whatever, right?. What was your response?. Are you only
into the "basic" perversion like shit, piss, cum, leather and midget or big fat
mamas, or are you an ultimate guy?:
-When I have placed ad for
selling/trading videos in Finnish sex mags, it's mainly children and animals people are
looking for. Kiddy porn is highly illegal here, even owning it, so it would be too risky
to be involved as people are very sensitive about this subject. Those who want kiddy porn
can go to internet and get it there. It would be foolish for me to own or distribute such
items in times like this.
For me personally, basically
everything goes. I have never seen something what would make me very disgusted or sick.
Some things I like more than others. Creamface is not dealing with every interest of mine,
at least not yet! I collect any bizarre sex videos, film loops, magazines and books. I
sometimes trade videos with likeminded people. I do sometimes more sometimes less of
videodistribution. Maybe more in future. We'll see.
This is easy to make the porno
atmosphere entering the music grind core scene, but at the opposite when you have some
guys cuming only for some goo flix are you trying to make them listening to your CREAMFACE
last opus(sy)?. Did you have guys /girls like that who asked you to listen to CREAMFACE?:
-I don't promote Creamface and
especially not to normal music fans. Creamface is meant to be for the limited group of
people who enjoy both, grind and porn.
I saw some pix on your website and
it was quite weird for the grind core and anyway extreme, ahahah!!!. There was a girl,
knee sitting, receiving cum in her face and with a CREAMFACE CD on the lips. That was one
of your knowledge porn Xtress?. Was that your dick?. You told me that guys were asking for
some other pictures?. Did you make some other series?:
-It was my cock. I have filmed and
photographed lots more of oral sex, s/m, bondage, spanking, fetish, etc. Very little of it
is to be given free for grind fans. Those who need to see that stuff should buy it when
it's available. When you pay for the models, you can't give it all free...
Quite all the cumshots pictures in
the inlay of the first MCD are available on the www.pornno.com gallery free sex web site.
Do you have some other good cuntact to give us (for our lay out.... ahahaha)?:
-Demo and 1st CDr was the only
things what included pictures made by others. After this I have (and will) do my own porn
stuff. There is a lot of good stuff in web, and people can find it by themselves if they
are into porn.
Let s deal a bit about the stuff
that I love : GGG John Thomson and Bukkake Overdose from Japan. Whats the aim of CFP
productions and since when are you working for that firm?:
-John Thompson started new label
"666" which seems to be just as intense as best GGG tapes. I have over 100 hours
of GGG ultimate cum orgy videos and it's definitely the best stuff of this style. Actually
not many have managed to even be close to what they do. Shuttle and MVG, among couple
others are doing the best cum stuff in Japan. It was real pleasure to see first 1 girl +
100 men and drinking all their cum for the first time. Now when novelty is gone, it's
still good, but not earthshaking anymore. There are lots of Japanese stuff what I would
like to see, though.
CFP is owned by myself. It started
in 2000 and have been quite slow and unproductive. There is couple hundred videos being
sold & distributed, but I have been focusing on creating the stuff more than marketing
& manufacturing. I have plans for the future but we'll see what happens. I have many
things to do in my life and CFP is not priority, so it's slow. But in 2002 many things
will happen!
Useless for me to ask you if you
have already make one gig (or gang bang?) in your country?. Didn't you feel frustrated by
the fact that you have only some releases available into some CD Rs and can t make any gig
and that the story will certainly stop like that?:
-No gigs in Finland. I was part of
finnish grind band Irritate as session drummer while they played short euro tour last
summer. We played one Creamface song in each show. To me it's not problem that there is
only few CDr's available. I'm not looking for gigs for CF at all in near future.
Dealing now with "Young and
Willing". There is written in the inlay card that you recorded some songs and that
they are available on the american label called M.T.S. Records. Is that the Menace To
Sobriety Records label and Direct Acts distro?. How did you enter in cuntact with that
fucking guy?:
-I don't remember how we got in
touch. There has been immense delays, misunderstandings and problems with the release, but
7" on white vinyl should be finally out in early 2002! I've been rather pissed off
because of this, but it seems they are getting it done after all.
(*7" was cancelled, because label didn't seem to get anything done and couple years of waiting is enough.)
How many copies did you make of this
7' Ep and why by the way did you again make one CD R and not one professional CD?.
Recorded on a 4 tracker and no mixing board, well , how were the recording conditoins for
the session?:
-Like I said, 7" was supposed
to be out about year and half ago, but might come out now. It should be 300-400 copies. I
did CDr because I was pissed off to long delay and silence from the side of label. People
were asking CF all the time and I knew I had the best stuff recorded, but nothing to give.
As it seemed 7" would never come out, I put it all on CDr with 8 minutes of new bonus
tracks, all original artwork and lyrics included in semi-professional digitally printed
covers. It's CDr because I never had guarantees that it would sell more than 50-100
copies. Now till end of 2002 it has sold 200 copies and is being asked all the time. It's
only distributed by small number of well selected labels like Hostile Regression Rec.,
Morbid rec., Bones Brigade prod., Merciless Rec, Necroharmonic prod., and couple others.
For the part of 7" recordings
there is mixing table used for drums, but other than that I have just recorded with
microphone which is connected directly at 4-tracker. Most of people can't believe this as
sound is better than in many studio recordings. I have been recording with simple
c-cassette 4-trackers since '93, so I've learned how to make it good.
Let s deal a bit about this very long intro where a girl is telling a guy that she is
wearing at shirt where it is written " I love blowjob" or shit like that. Where
does that cum from?:
-Shirt actually says "I
swallow". It's dialogue from video series by american semi-professional porn maker
Rodney Moore, called "I Swallow". He has done few decent videos where pretty
girls swallow cum and deepthroat some big cocks. Most of his hundreds of videos are ok,
but many just mediocre. A lot is traditional subjective filming - Rodney filming while
girl sucks his cock. So you see it like from point of view being sucked. I have used this
a lot too as it looks good.
Finally you made quite noise core
songs. This one called "Don't Bite", and also "Natural Champagne" or
"Double Fist".. Why?:
-That's because Creamface is
grindcore/noisecore fusion. Many people have contacted me and offered trades with death
metal or death/grind. Many have been asking why I don't take brutal and tight death metal,
but reason is that I don't usually like it. It bores me till death. I rather dig my boxes
full of the treasures of early 90's noisecore tapes than submit to clean and soft sounding
late 90's death metal sound! Noisecore doesn't seem to be popular anymore, if it ever was,
but I don't give a fuck. I'll keep doing the such stuff among the grind despite is pisses
off many people who only want "real songs"...
It is also written on that MCD that
it is a release of the "LOLITA SLAVINDER RECORDS"?. Whats that?; You made your
own label for the MCD. Are you going to put out some other releases that those of
CREAMFACE?:
-L.S.R. is named after old
controversial danish publication and is indeed created to release Creamface and related
material. Expect Creamface/Black Syfilis split CDr sigle in 2002!
So this time for the inlay card you
have only used pictures from your own collection and private one. It is written that you
made them by your own. Some words about that?:
-Not much more to say. Pictures are
taken by myself, just specially for this 7"/CDr. It's 100% genuine porn grind.
Played, recorded, artwork, lyrics, lay-out, manufacturing, etc. All done by myself.
The last songs of the MCD have
another sound quality and to tell you the truth I really prefer the sound of the first.
Whats happened during the recording. Why don't you use some mixing effects or shits like
that pal?:
-I dislike clean sound. When you
hear stuff like Rotten Sound, Nasum, etc etc. it's like uuffhh!! What it this crap!? Not
to mention hundreds of others supposedly "brutal" bands who have sweet triggered
computer sounding drums and cleanly distorted guitars like some mainstream hardrock bands.
I don't listen only grind. Actually I listen quite little of grind compared to some other
styles, but when I do, I like the dirty old sound. Blood "impulse to destroy"
fucking amazing! Napalm Death "Scum" great. O.L.D. 1st, very good! etc etc. When
you look at old undeground stuff, be it grind, death or black metal, there is many bands
with personal sound. Tons of good 7"s and demo tapes and also some albums.
How come most of todays bands think
they "must" have polished crappy sound?! I like personal sound, created in small
studio or by bands own equipment. It's always better than using these popular metal/grind
studios or places where you imitate the faceless sound of such places. Back to the
basement! Fuck the commercial sound!
Difference between recordings of
Young & Willing and the bonus tracks is mainly that latter one has drum recorded with
only 1 microphone connected to 4-tracker. No mixing, no effects whatsoever.
Guitar/bass/vocals sound equally heavy for my ears.
Now the split MCD ® with
NEKRO-TORSO. To tell you the truth the difference between the both bands is so enormous
that i can t believe that you were quite worshipping this band?. What the Hell was going
on?. I know that there weren t so much bands in your country but anyway was that really
the only one ?:
-Most of bands I like do not sound
like stuff what I do. I don't try to imitate bands what I like. I like all what I have
done, though. It's just exactly kind of stuff what I want to do/hear, but my fave bands
might still sound very different.
Nekro-Torso is definitely not only
grind band in finland. There has been a lot since the late 80's. Waste Rapers, Traitor,
Dicktator, Goregasm, Lifeless Vomit, and much more! Nekro-Torso demo 91 and also 92, but
especially 91 is much more faster and dirtier grind, and still very original torso sound
no one else has. I released this adv tape on the split CDr because it was never officially
released by the band. I was among handful of people who ever got it. It's more midpaced,
but still the good old torso sound.
At that time I'm sure you were also
listening to the "usual " grind core releases like most of us, S.O.B., EXTREME
NOISE TERROR, SORE THROAT, FEAR OF GOD for the olders and influences, and all the DEAD
INFECTION, SQUASH BOWELS, LAST DAYS OF HUMANITY and shits like that. So why did you decide
to put these songs on the CD with you?:
-You mean why I put Nekro-Torso
stuff in the split? Because back then I was young and enthusiastic about many underground
styles, and also big fan of Nekro-Torso. They disappeared in '93, and I never heard them
since. This band never gained any real attention from grind scene as they were only
selling demos inside Finland.
I did listen the bands you mentioned
first, but those you mentioned later, I didn't heard until much later. Back in early 90's
when I joined into underground "scene", I started, and still am listening to
(death/thrash/) blackmetal and pure noise too. I often like stuff what is serious. Most
grind isn't, so obviously especially in "older age" I tend to have more interest
towards genres which have more ideological side. But there is time and place for good old
grind for me too.
Is there a chance that one way you
want to do some t shirts?. How could they look like?:
-They have been done already and
picture can be seen on my site: kiss.to/creamface
Why are you so attracted by the
French combo ANTAEUS?. Whats about ARKHON INFAUSTUS?. Did the names of AMON or AGGRESSOR,?
-They are good, but not my favorite
band. I enjoy aggressive feeling of Antaeus. I liked their mCD more than full length. It
worked on short doses better. I have listened Arkhon Infaustus 7" and CD, it's ok,
but for me it's little bit too clean sound. They are fast and brutal but not exactly my
taste. Those who are on mission against values of christianity and glorify death and
degeneration of useless mankind as well as aknowledges doctrine of carnal lust and
materiality, they get my respect. Creamface does not underline it's overall nature, but
it's not "fun" band for most part. It's another punch in the face of religion
and christian morality what plagues the western world. If there is sometimes tongue in
cheek, I don't see it weakening the true meaning.
Ok, thank you CF for answering this
little intie. Take care, give us a lot of over releases like that , really fucking good
work and last words for you:
-Perversion at all cost!
CF, P.o.box 53, 15141 Lahti,
Finland.